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		<title>Interview with GISCafe and Mark Doherty, CTO of Intergraph SG&amp;I</title>
		<link>http://jeffhobbs.net/2010/09/07/interview-with-giscafe-and-mark-doherty-cto-of-intergraph-sgi/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark conducted a brief 10 minute interview with GISCafe.com. Some of the topics he covered are: The Hexagon purchase of Intergraph Upcoming software Future plans<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=jeffhobbs.net&#038;blog=1271031&#038;post=351&#038;subd=jeffhobbs&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark conducted a brief <a href="http://www10.giscafe.com/video/Intergraph-Mark-Doherty-VP-&amp;-CTO/32800/media.html">10 minute interview</a> with GISCafe.com. Some of the topics he covered are:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.intergraph.com/assets/pressreleases/2010/07-07-2010.aspx" target="_blank">The Hexagon purchase of Intergraph</a></li>
<li>Upcoming software</li>
<li>Future plans</li>
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		<title>Intergraph Launches Security, Government &amp; Infrastructure User Forum</title>
		<link>http://jeffhobbs.net/2009/11/12/intergraph-launches-security-government-infrastructure-user-forum/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From an email I received yesterday Intergraph is pleased to announce the availability of the new Security, Government &#38; Infrastructure User Forum website.&#160; We encourage you to utilize the forum website as a means of exchanging information with your peers. Access to the Security, Government &#38; Infrastructure User Forum website is available from any of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=jeffhobbs.net&#038;blog=1271031&#038;post=344&#038;subd=jeffhobbs&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an email I received yesterday</p>
<blockquote><p>Intergraph is pleased to announce the availability of the new Security, Government &amp; Infrastructure User Forum website.&#160; We encourage you to utilize the forum website as a means of exchanging information with your peers. </p>
<p>Access to the Security, Government &amp; Infrastructure User Forum website is available from any of the product support web pages or via the direct link below: </p>
<p>URL: <a href="http://userforums.intergraph.com/support/">http://userforums.intergraph.com/support/</a>      <br />Login: Same as your Siebel username and password. </p>
<p>Instructions for using the forum are available from the “Help &amp; Guidelines” link on the User Forum page. Likewise, if you have any questions or feedback regarding the forums please send an email via the “Contact Us” tab. </p>
<p>Thank you,      <br />The Intergraph® Customer Support Team</p>
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<p>I’ve checked this out a few times, but haven’t had a chance to dig in much. Looks promising and it’s definitely a good sign from Intergraph.</p>
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		<title>Intergraph Launches New SDI Application</title>
		<link>http://jeffhobbs.net/2009/06/16/intergraph-launches-new-sdi-application/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read an interesting article on GISCafe discussing Intergraph’s new product named “GeoMedia SDI Pro”. If you have a few minutes, it’s worth the read.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=jeffhobbs.net&#038;blog=1271031&#038;post=334&#038;subd=jeffhobbs&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read an interesting article on GISCafe discussing Intergraph’s new product named “<a href="http://www10.giscafe.com/nbc/articles/view_article.php?section=CorpNews&amp;articleid=708012">GeoMedia SDI Pro</a>”. If you have a few minutes, it’s worth the read.</p>
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		<title>Intergraph Schema Remodeler</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the last blog post on Safe Software&#8217;s FME suite, I would be remiss to not discuss Intergraph&#8217;s own Schema Remodeler utility. The Schema Remodeler utility comes as part of GeoMedia Fusion. [RANT]On a complete side note&#8230;IF Intergraph would NOT hide their marketing information behind a login and password, then I&#8217;d have links to the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=jeffhobbs.net&#038;blog=1271031&#038;post=301&#038;subd=jeffhobbs&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the last blog post on Safe Software&#8217;s FME suite, I would be remiss to not discuss Intergraph&#8217;s own Schema Remodeler utility. The Schema Remodeler utility comes as part of GeoMedia Fusion.</p>
<p>[RANT]On a complete side note&#8230;<strong>IF</strong> Intergraph would <strong>NOT</strong> hide their marketing information behind a login and password, then I&#8217;d have links to the products. The last I heard, <a href="mailto:david.holmes@intergraph.com?subject=Please post GeoMedia marketing information on the Intergraph web site without requiring a user name and password!">David Holmes</a> had said that he hoped to have at least the splash pages out from login/password shortly after the end of the conference. We&#8217;re going on almost a month now&#8230;anytime soon would certainly be nice. Actually, I found what I think is a hidden link to <a href="http://www.intergraph.com/literature/geomedia_fusion.pdf">a bit of literature</a> on the software.[/RANT]</p>
<p>Anyhow, GeoMedia Fusion is a great tool for doing data cleanup, attribute validation,&nbsp; and conflation. The schema remodeler utility comes with GeoMedia Fusion and is a stand alone utility that provides you with the ability to migrate data from one source to another and to bulk export from the GeoMedia environment. For those that have heard of Intergraph&#8217;s Data Warehousing Tools, the schema remodeler utility is the re-branded (and enhanced) Data Warehousing Tools. Schema Remodeler is one of my favorite Intergraph tools and I almost always use it at least once a week.. As of late I&#8217;ve set it up to take my Trimble GPS text files and load them into my Oracle Locator database. In the schema remodeler utility, you can do a number of things including re-mapping and reordering columns from one source to another (think migrating a database from Access to Oracle or SQL Server); exporting a seamless Access feature class into a gridded Bentley Microstation V7 environment; and updating columns using functional attributes, creating a subset of the the data using temporal and attribute queries, and modifying the source geometry using an analytical merge so you can export the Oracle data to create a shapefile (all in one transaction).</p>
<p>When you look at the functionality of Schema Remodeler, it&#8217;s really pretty amazing at how much you can do with the utility. Now, how do I compare it to FME? It&#8217;s hard to say as I&#8217;ve used Schema Remodeler off and on for the last five years and I&#8217;ve only use FME a handful of times. In my eyes, they both attempt to do similar things. The biggest difference in my eyes has to do with the number of file formats supported (Schema Remodeler only supports the standard GM data server while FME supports at least 150 different GIS data types) and how detailed you need to get. Schema Remodeler is great for many things, however it&#8217;s only a utility. FME on the other hand is a complete software solution. Its so goal is &#8220;spatial ETL (<strong>E</strong>xtract, <strong>T</strong>ransform, and <strong>L</strong>oad&#8221;. It should also be mentioned that since you can&#8217;t buy Schema Remodeler by itself (it only comes with GeoMedia Fusion), FME is actually quite a bit cheaper than Schema Remodeler. So, if you&#8217;re looking exclusively for &#8220;spatial ETL&#8221; functionality, I personally would go with FME. However if you need to do some pretty advanced conflation, a lot of automated data cleanup, and attribute validation, you really should be looking at GeoMedia Fusion. If you do that, it&#8217;s really nice to know that Schema Remodeler comes as part of Fusion and may answer many of your ETL needs.</p>
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		<title>Issues with GeoMedia WebMap 6.1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the last few days on the Directions Magazine email list, there have been a couple of mentions of a few different problems people are encountering with GeoMedia WebMap 6.1. 1) Rendering speed &#8211; With the release of 6.1, Intergraph merged much of the missing GeoMedia 6.0 functionality in GeoMedia WebMap 6.1. One of these [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=jeffhobbs.net&#038;blog=1271031&#038;post=294&#038;subd=jeffhobbs&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the last few days on the Directions Magazine email list, there have been a couple of mentions of a few different problems people are encountering with GeoMedia WebMap 6.1.</p>
<p>1) Rendering speed &#8211; With the release of 6.1, Intergraph merged much of the missing GeoMedia 6.0 functionality in GeoMedia WebMap 6.1. One of these new additions was with enterprise libraries. <strike>Now, although I haven&#8217;t received too much feedback on the issue, it sounds as if GeoMedia WebMap Publisher (WebPub) will now automatically check the library for a style. If the named style is in the library, that named style will overwrite what has been symbolized in GeoMedia. Long story short, if my line is symbolized as red in GeoMedia (WebPub Admin), but I have a green named style in my library (the named style name must match the name of the legend entry), than my line will appear green in my WebPub site. Well apparently, this checking is really slowing down the rendering performance of GeoMedia WebMap. </strike></p>
<p><strike>Now, I will say that if my understanding is correct, this seems pretty cool. However, after thinking about it some, I&#8217;m not really sure I would have that functionality at the top of my requirements list. Personally, I find that my symbology is fairly standardized. Once I have things symbolized a certain way, it&#8217;s not changing too much if at all. It has been my experience that people like consistency with the look and feel of their maps. What do others think here? With that said, I would much rather have rendering speed rather than something that would make my job a little easier on a very rare occasion.</strike></p>
<p>2) Remote publishing with an Oracle Connection &#8211; There have also been reported issues where if you publish your geoworkspace remotely and you have an Oracle connection in your geoworkspace, then you will encounter issues with hotspots, select by, and other commands where you interact with vectors on the map.</p>
<p>All in all, both are frustrating. The latest word is that these issues should be addressed as part of the first GeoMedia WebMap minor release due out in the August/September time frame. With that said, it really looks like Intergraph pushed to get the GeoMedia WebMap 6.1 suite out fairly soon after the GeoMedia suite was released. This was most likely due to both internal and customer driven pressure. After all, how many users would&#8217;ve been happy to hear that GeoMedia Pro was released early this year but we won&#8217;t see GeoMedia WebMap/Pro released until September? That wouldn&#8217;t fly with anybody. So, Intergraph made a tough decision, but I think one that makes sense. After all, I&#8217;m sure there are quite a few customers out there where the two issues above won&#8217;t greatly impact them. Of course, it would&#8217;ve been useful if Intergraph had made it a bit more clear to the users of the current limitations of the GMWM release.</p>
<p>In the meantime, for those customers that will be impacted by this, I would heavily suggest you hold off until the first minor release. And even after the first minor release, make sure to test on a development server before going production. After all, that&#8217;s why Intergraph gives you the free development license <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p><strong><u>UPDATE</u></strong> I received a correction from one of my contacts in support at Intergraph soon after making the post. Apparently my initial understanding above (now crossed out) was incorrect. Apparently, Intergraph has only changed the way the symbology data are stored. Before they were stored as part of the metadatabase in a separate table. It is now stored in the LIBRARY table that&#8217;s part of any Library Connection. With that said, it seems (at least in my eyes) unlikely that that change is really causing the slowness. However, it&#8217;s very likely that the 6.0 GeoMedia symbology functionality that was rolled into GMWM 6.1 could be causing this slowness.</p>
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		<title>National Geodetic Survey Web Site</title>
		<link>http://jeffhobbs.net/2008/05/29/national-geodetic-survey-web-site/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 03:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a while I&#8217;ve been wanting to sanity check my GPS points against a known entity. So, I&#8217;ve been looking for a set of survey monuments for Santa Clara County. Up to now, I haven&#8217;t been able to find them. My plan is to simply shoot the monument with each of my GPS units and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=jeffhobbs.net&#038;blog=1271031&#038;post=289&#038;subd=jeffhobbs&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a while I&#8217;ve been wanting to sanity check my GPS points against a known entity. So, I&#8217;ve been looking for a set of survey monuments for Santa Clara County. Up to now, I haven&#8217;t been able to find them. My plan is to simply shoot the monument with each of my GPS units and compare the results I receive from the unit to the survey monument coordinates. HOPEFULLY they&#8217;ll be very similar&#8230;.</p>
<p>Anyhow, today I finally got the bright idea to contact the county surveyor&#8217;s office. They pointed me to the <a href="http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/datasheet.prl">NGS web site</a>. As it turns out, they host survey monuments for the entire nation on this site. Even better, they allow you to download a shapefile with the control points. So next I&#8217;ll be loading the shapefile into GeoMedia and then writing a couple of simple functional attributes to translate from lat/long to California State Plane coordinates. After that, I&#8217;ll be able to shoot the survey monuments and finally double check the horizontal accuracy of my GPS systems.</p>
<p>Not very GeoMedia related, but did want to pass the site along to others looking to do something similar.</p>
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		<title>Couple of Cool Utilities</title>
		<link>http://jeffhobbs.net/2008/05/13/couple-of-cool-utilities/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jeffhobbs</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A little while ago, I was passed a couple of utilities that I wanted to share with the community. 1) CSF2ASCII.exe &#8211; This tool will read any .csf file and write out the contents (projection information out to a a ASCII text file or an HTML file. This is also available in the download widget [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=jeffhobbs.net&#038;blog=1271031&#038;post=288&#038;subd=jeffhobbs&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little while ago, I was passed a couple of utilities that I wanted to share with the community.</p>
<p>1) <a href="http://www.box.net/shared/qfaq1yio0s">CSF2ASCII.exe</a> &#8211; This tool will read any .csf file and write out the contents (projection information out to a a ASCII text file or an HTML file. This is also available in the download widget on the left hand side of the screen.</p>
<p>2) <a href="http://www.box.net/shared/g0aas6z0go">Database Inventory</a> &#8211; This will analyze any warehouse connection and provide a complete list of the GeoMedia objects that are available in the connection. I found this one a bit hard to use&#8230;but it could definitely be useful if you needed to get a better feel for the contents of a new connection&#8230;especially a database. Great for documentation and learning. This too can be downloaded from the widget on the left hand side of the screen.</p>
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		<title>Few New GeoMedia 6.1 Movies on Youtube</title>
		<link>http://jeffhobbs.net/2008/05/08/few-new-geomedia-61-movies-on-youtube/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 03:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jeffhobbs</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve pushed all of the AVIs that were shown at the GeoMedia 6.1 product launch on to YouTube.com. I&#8217;ve been working on an internal wiki (not GeoMedia related) for work lately. So I haven&#8217;t been updating the blog much. However I still do want to get writing about what I found out at the 6.1 [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=jeffhobbs.net&#038;blog=1271031&#038;post=287&#038;subd=jeffhobbs&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve pushed all of the AVIs that were shown at the GeoMedia 6.1 product launch on to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jeffhobbs2006&amp;search_type=">YouTube.com</a>. I&#8217;ve been working on an internal wiki (not GeoMedia related) for work lately. So I haven&#8217;t been updating the blog much. However I still do want to get writing about what I found out at the 6.1 product launch. Additionally, I&#8217;m hoping to have more information after attending <a href="http://www.intergraph2008.com/">Intergraph 2008</a>. So keep reading <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Heading to Intergraph 2008</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jeffhobbs</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just found out my travel for Intergraph 2008 has been approved! So, I&#8217;ll be heading out to Las Vegas, NV probably on Monday, June 1. Who else is going? Maybe some folks want to get together for drinks one night? Reply and let me know!<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=jeffhobbs.net&#038;blog=1271031&#038;post=285&#038;subd=jeffhobbs&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found out my travel for <a href="http://www.intergraph2008.com/">Intergraph 2008</a> has been approved! So, I&#8217;ll be heading out to Las Vegas, NV probably on Monday, June 1. Who else is going? Maybe some folks want to get together for drinks one night?</p>
<p>Reply and let me know!</p>
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		<title>GeoMedia Wiki</title>
		<link>http://jeffhobbs.net/2008/04/24/geomedia-wiki/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jeffhobbs</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was reading a post made by Zym in reply to one of my entries. It mentions using Google as a reference for a good source of documentation. He also mentions the idea of developing a wiki. There has been talk of developing a wiki focused on GeoMedia suite. I envision it to be a centralized [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=jeffhobbs.net&#038;blog=1271031&#038;post=284&#038;subd=jeffhobbs&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was reading a <a href="http://jeffhobbs.net/2008/04/22/find-the-missing-software/#comment-1922">post made by Zym</a> in reply to one of my entries. It mentions using Google as a reference for a good source of documentation. He also mentions the idea of developing a wiki. There has been talk of developing a wiki focused on GeoMedia suite. I envision it to be a centralized place where users can find examples, documentation, and pointers for more ideas. Additionally, I envision it being a collaborative effort with some content coming from Intergraph but also quite a bit of content coming from the users.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;m sure you all know, the real power of a wiki is the ability for <u>many</u> people to collaborate. So, with that said, I&#8217;d like your feedback.</p>
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<li>Would you find it useful?</li>
<li>Would you help edit it?</li>
<li>Would you add your own content (e.g. examples, workflows, ideas, etc).</li>
<li>Would the requirement that you had to login turn you off from editing/adding content?</li>
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<p>Please provide your feedback as I could really see this happening&#8230;if there&#8217;s enough interest.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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